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HMP on Windows 2008 or Hyper-V Windows 2003 guest

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HMP on Windows 2008 or Hyper-V Windows 2003 guest

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Hi. I've been waiting a while for news on HMP compatibility in either of these scenarios:

  1. Running on Windows 2008 (host)
  2. Running on Windows 2003 as a Hyper-V guest on a Windows 2008 host

I realise that HMP doesn't work properly using VMWare but Hyper-V is a totally different beast and we can save a lot of money, energy, and rack space by using it. Has anyone tried it yet?

The whole world is going virtual so I'm surprised that HMP still doesn't work on VMWare or support Windows 2008.

Did you know that Microsoft will officially terminate mainstream support for Windows 2003 in July 2010. That's just 20 months from now. It's critical for HMP to fully support 2008. It would be a bad strategy to put in new servers running 2003 when it's not the current release and lacks some of the technologies and better licensing we want to leverage from 2008. Does Dialogic have 2008 and Hyper-V on its roadmap? If so what sort of time frame are we looking at?

Thanks,

Gary.

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  • Hi Gary

    For 2008 server, we are in the middle of a planning phase to introduce HMP support for this some time in 2009; we don't have firm dates yet for this but looking to firm up the plans by end of this year.  For VMware or similar virtual machines, we are still early in exploration of related technologies and don't have a target yet but your feedback and needs are valuable to us as we go through the planning cycle.

  • Thanks for your reply, Daniel. I'm surprised you haven't tested HMP on 2003 on a 2008 Hyper-V host. If I can set this up on one of our servers I will definitely test it because it would be brilliant if it worked. Of course if I have any results I'll report back.

  • Hi

    Does it not work or is it just not supported/fully tested.

    Cheers Mike

  • Hi

    Just wanted to bump this.  It is quite an old post now and windows 2008 is nearly at sp2.

    Are there any plans to support 2008 x64 anytime soon.

    I have to install 5 new servers and don't really want to be installing 2003 just for HMP.

    Thanks

    Mike

  • I have been able to run HMP on a Windows 2008 server... but it was on a virtural machine!

    Running on Hyper-V as the host, I ran Windows 2003 as the guest and HMP behaved well. In the past I had tried VMWare which didn't work. However, that does not resolve the problem of running natively on Windows 2008.

    Here's the real issue, Dialogic, if you are reading this. We need to virtualise our servers if we are to expand. We will be using Windows Datacentre licenses which allow us to run unlimited Windows 2008 guest operating systems on each physical server. We cannot use HMP without having to pay extra money to specifically run Windows 2003 because Microsoft does not include 2003 as part of the "run as many guests for the same price" license.

    Software developers have had access to Vista/2008 driver documentation and development code for a good 3 years now. Every Windows flavour from Vista onwards will be using the same drivers, we knew that back in 2006. Why have Dialogic dragged their heals so badly? Perhaps they plan to discontinue HMP or don't have enough customers to warrant further development? It certainly seems that way. :-(

    Mainstream support for 2003 will expire in 16 months from now... July 2010. No one in their right mind should be installing 2003 on new servers.

  • Hi Gary,

    Dialogic is working on supporting both Vista and Win2008 (32 bit )  with Windows HMP 3.0;  it will take few more month until the new version is released. I don't have an exact date no; in any case it should come out well before the support for 2003 expires.

    Thanks,

    Leonid Pilifosov

     

  • Hi Leonid

    Does this mean no x64 support is planned.

    My app doesn;'t warrant a server to itself and often shares a server with exchange  which is now x64 only

    Thanks

    Mike

  • Mike,

    Unfortunately, there is no current plan to add 64-bit support to HMP 3.0. It may be added to next major releases; your sale rep can give you more details on HMP roadmap.

    Thank you,

  • I see Diva SoftIP EOL status has been removed. That supports 64bit so I guess I will go with that for now.

    Can you see any problems with this plan?

    Thanks

     

    Mike

  • I would also be very interested if there are any news on Vista/Windows 2008/Windows7 HMP support. It's increasingly difficult to tell the customers that Windows Server 2003 is required, especially because afaik it will still be supported for only 1 and 1/2 years.

    I know SR 6.0 is supported on Vista/Win2008, but HMP is more cost effective, and it can be deployed in smaller servers, because even for E1/T1 it does have higher density than SR 6.0. For example, I can deploy an 1U server supporting 8 T1/E1 and 240 SIP connections. On SR 6.0, the same system needs 4 DMIP601 boards, resulting in at least a 4U server. Another issue in this case would be that it would require 5 LAN connections, versus 1 for HMP.

    Anyway, the point is that HMP is a lot better than SR6.0 from a price and density point of view, so it really needs Vista/Windows 2008 support.

    Thank you,

    Chris